Dean Kandi Turley-Ames talks with ISU psychology alum and software engineer Dr. Michael Chow about how he turned an early academic stumble into a path through cognitive psychology, a fully funded PhD at Princeton, and his current work building open-source tools for data analysis at Posit. They explore how ISU’s mentors and “second-chance” culture shaped his journey, why cognitive psychology is a powerful launchpad into tech, and how AI is transforming software development, learning, and the future of higher education.